Re: re: Perfect design my ass
Post last updated 1 month, 3 weeks ago
CAUTION
I don't intend to have a fight over this, and I'll try to keep my ideas related to the person's text, not the person themself.
So, somewhat expected, my latest post sparked some fireworks and although I don't mind (people can disagree with or dislike what they read here), I'd like to have some clarifications regarding re-chunkofcoal's reply
Let's begin, shall we?
Point by point
One of the most unsympathetic posts I've read on Bear.
I mean, there was a warning at the beginning of the post. It's fine if you disagree or dislike what I write, but I find it a bit weird to complain that after being cautioned about the content you still feel the need to complain about it, especially since I don't feel I was calling for public executions.
A headache is not worth cursing your entire existence over, or holding a gripe against "some religious people" and God. Which by the way, what do you mean by some religious people? Just be honest and say Christians.
I think I'm free to curse whatever I want, ain't I? I'll write more at the end about the victim complex Christians seem to have.
Where is your proof even that "some religious people" believe in perfect design? Or push a belief that because every human is supposedly "built perfect", that when you aren't it's immediately your own fault, even with ailments out of your own control?
I don't even know how to respond to this. I should've kept a log of every time I'd heard religious people say X or Y and link it in my post? What difference would it make, because without faith (hehe) that I really experienced it, you could've claimed even then that I just made up a bunch of stuff.
I have read online and even heard in person many outrageous (to me) things said by someone religious, or how many times they tried to shove, against my will, shit down my throat. That's why I added "some" there, to indicate that not necessarily all of them are like this. I thought it would be a truism to specially mention it in that post. If you consider yourself a good Christian, cheers to you; the post was not about you then.
Let's make this clear. Christians believe that every human is "made in God's image".
Theoretically, yes; in practice, not really, as the majority of people bend whatever religion they have to accommodate their own beliefs about the world. I like how Nietzsche put it: there was only one Christian and he died on the cross.1
Adam and Eve were the only perfect humans and they sinned, making themselves imperfect and their descendants the same. It's that simple.
I don't like to say this, but in my opinion this is a perfect example of an illogical statement, because how can you be perfect and sin?
I have to ask, why are you so quick to blame God and "religious people" when you don't even know the entirety of how your mind, body and soul work?
I think I live one of the most average lives possible: don't drink, don't smoke, do some sport every once in a while, try to do some good here and there, yadda yadda. I personally think that annoyances like the ones I was complaining about are, in part at least, due to bad luck. Shit just happens. But if there were a God, especially one in the likeness portrayed in the Bible, it would make sense (to me, again, to me) to moan about such an illogical thing: to inflict unnecessary pain or discomfort for being less stressed than normal.
I don't know where you saw that I was "blaming" religious people, though. I was making a little bit of fun about the contradictions of what some of them believe regarding perfect design and a scenario where that makes no sense.
Furthermore, I find it really funny at the conclusion of your post
Thanks, I was intentional about the post having a quasi-comedic tone.
I'd like to call bluff on that. Since you felt your judgement was pressing enough to let the world know about it. The problem was over and yet you want to whinge about it more - it's almost like you are using your own ailment as an excuse to be a dick to an entire group of people for their beliefs. Now it makes sense that you wouldn't specify which religion you were judging.
I had the impression that a blog is, or can be, akin to a journal. Again, given I don't feel I called for public executions or anything like that, it should be fine to write whatever's on my mind. Also, the last part is a bit hypocritical. Christians have long been, and in some places still are, dicks to large swaths of people, and not just by writing mildly annoying blog posts but by actively writing laws that restrict freedoms or force beliefs.
I guess you can never, ever judge a Buddhist, a Hindu, a Muslim or a Jew. Only, Only judge Christians. Don't you know, they only drink beer from Adolf Hitler's pub!!!
Many people in my family are practicing Orthodox; about 90% of Romanians declare themselves Orthodox. The majority of Europe and the Western Hemisphere has been Christian for hundreds or thousands of years. Christianity is the biggest religion on Earth, and it had an enormous influence over the past two thousand years.
Doesn't it make sense that I mostly refer to Christians? I don't personally know practicing Buddhists,2 Hindus, or Jews. I know some non-practicing Muslims. Does it matter, though? If you are really focused on the God part, my post can be equally read as an affront to Christians, Jews, and Muslims, as they all have a monotheistic religion and share many ideas.
The victim complex
I see this reccurrently: people in the majority, who hold most of the power, start to whine and moan about how oppressed they are the instant someone on the other side gives them even a side eye. Christians, right-wingers, white males, conservative straight people, etc. Even when you mock or attack the ideas or beliefs, not the person, they start throwing a tantrum. Why?
Christians might've been persecuted in the times of Nero, but since then they persecuted others tenfold harder and longer. Even though they have a large (and sadly larger by the year) influence on politics on both sides of the Atlantic, they still feel others are oppressing them. Same with right-wingers who believe that anything left of turbo-capitalism is Stalinism. Same with white males who think women having equal rights and treatment in society will make them the second gender. Same with straight people who think LGBTQ+ people having somewhat equal rights to them will make them homo.
I just can't comprehend being this entitled.
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